Legislature(1995 - 1996)

04/04/1995 08:07 AM House STA

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 SB 5 - COLOR OF PRIMARY BALLOTS                                              
                                                                              
 Number 122                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said that in the committee packets they have the                  
 original bill that came over from the Senate.   It was the State              
 Affairs Committee substitute for SB 5, and a question came up from            
 Representative Willis about which version, the original or Version            
 K.   The committee packets only had the CS, Version K.   Chair                
 James asked the sponsor which documents were the correct ones to              
 use.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 163                                                                    
                                                                               
 JOSH FINK, Legislative Assistant to Senator Kelly, did not have the           
 same packet as the committee.   He put together his own packet, and           
 he said that he could tell the committee what sections came over in           
 the original bill from the Senate.   The letter number was G.                 
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES focused on the House Concurrent Resolution with a                 
 prospective CS behind it, Version K, which is a work draft provided           
 by the sponsor.   She said that some of the suggestions in the                
 House Concurrent Resolution are nearly identical to items included            
 in HB 211 on Voter Registration, which is Representative Con                  
 Bundes bill.  There are also similarities in Representative Jerry             
 Mackies bill that is presently in House Rules.                                
                                                                               
 Number 190                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. FINK said he was testifying on Senator Kelly's behalf, because            
 Senator Kelly was unable to be there.   What the committee had                
 before them was a proposed CS by Senator Kelly for their                      
 consideration.  The original Senate Bill as it passed the Senate is           
 contained in Section 8, 9 and 10.   These sections require that               
 primary ballots be printed on white paper, to prevent the invasion            
 of voting secrecy that has occurred with different colored ballots            
 in the last primary election.  It will also require changing one              
 half of the voting booths in each polling place.   Rather than                
 using the new suitcase booths, which lack privacy, the booths will            
 require curtains.   According to the Division of Elections they               
 have enough booths so availability of curtained booths is not a               
 problem, and there is a zero fiscal note on those sections.   The             
 remainder of the proposed CS contains new provisions and is                   
 accompanied by a proposed committee resolution to allow for a title           
 change.   Mr. Fink said Senator Kelly believes, if we are going to            
 enact any voting reform, it should occur this year, and, in                   
 particular, not in a voting year.  Session is nearly on its                   
 eightieth day and this is the only election form bill that has                
 passed from one body and came to the other.  After the Lieutenant             
 Governors Transition Team report on the Division of Elections came            
 out, Senator Kelly perused that, then incorporated into the CS the            
 provisions he thought were nonpartisan and noncontroversial.  He              
 met with Lieutenant Governor Ulmer to discuss these provisions, who           
 is in agreement.  The next thing is to speak with the Division of             
 Elections.  Senator Kelly would urge the committee to accept the              
 drafted resolution for the title change and adopt the CS.                     
                                                                               
 MR. FINK requested permission from Chair James to briefly review              
 the provisions of the bill.  After being granted permission, he               
 began with Section 1.  Section 1 provides that the information                
 provided when voting a question ballot constitutes a change of                
 address request and/or registration for future elections.                     
 Currently, another form is used.  Sections 2 and 3 provide that the           
 director of the division must purge deceased voters and felons                
 promptly after receiving such information, and at least once a                
 month thereafter.   Sections 2 and 3 are the only sections in this            
 proposed CS that are contained in Representative Con Bundes bill.             
 Section 4 provides that the division director is directly                     
 responsible for the hiring, performance and evaluation, promotion,            
 termination, and all other employee matters in the division.                  
 Section 5 and 23 go together to enact the same change.  They                  
 provide that all division employees, except for the division                  
 director and four regional directors, are classified employees.               
 Since putting together the CS, Senator Kelly met with Lieutenant              
 Governor Ulmer and discussed it with her at length.  There is an              
 amendment on these sections, and Mr. Fink asked that they hold                
 consideration on the bill until the Division of Elections explains            
 the reason for the amendment.  Section 6 strengthens the training             
 requirements of the division staff, requiring the director to                 
 prepare a plan for the Lieutenant Governor describing the                     
 comprehensive training provided to the division employees during              
 the calendar year.   Section 7 provides that on the ballots the               
 order of names be randomly selected within each district rather               
 than rotating names.   If there are 40 house districts, there are             
 40 different ballots, and in each house district you would have a             
 random selection, so your statewide candidates would have a                   
 different order.  From talking to people, Senator Kelly said the              
 rotation of names has a negligible affect, if any at all.  Random             
 selection will save the division about $100,000 to $200,000                   
 dollars.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 260                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER asked about random selection and what             
 they compared it with in their analysis.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 265                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. FINK said they compared it to the rotation selection, and the             
 comparison study was done on a national level.  Many states have              
 eliminated the alphabetical rotation of names because of the cost.            
 He went on to explain the changes in Sections 8 and 9, which                  
 provides that half the voting booths in each precinct be the                  
 curtain booths.  Section 10 requires that all ballots be white.               
 Sections 11 through 22, which, he explained, are contained in                 
 Representative Mackies bill that is presently in House Rules.                 
 Representative Mackie met with the Speaker and Senator Kelly, and             
 he indicated that he preferred Senator Kellys bill to be the                  
 vehicle.  He has offered to help them.  These Sections, 11 through            
 22, provide that all candidates must appear on primary ballots.  He           
 asked Chair James if it would be appropriate to hand out the                  
 amendments.                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said he could do that.                                            
                                                                               
 MR. FINK discussed the Lieutenant Governors concerns as per the               
 transition reports.   One was the depoliticization of the Division            
 of Elections.  Except for the four regional directors, this CS                
 would put the employees in the civil service, or a classified                 
 service.  The transition team had some concern that these employees           
 would be in a bargaining unit, and political action committees                
 could engage in behavior that gives the perception of impropriety.            
 The amendment would have the hiring and promotion and termination             
 rules, and personnel rules, in regulation apply to classified                 
 service, but the employees would not be in the classified service.            
 They would be between classified and exempt.  That is what the                
 longer amendment achieves.  Also, the CS would inadvertently put              
 them in classified service and allow them to be involved in                   
 political activity at the precinct level.  The first amendment                
 would prohibit political activities by members of the division and            
 put them in the status where the personnel rules would apply, yet             
 they are not classified employees.   They introduced the second               
 amendment, which is the shorter one, at the request of the                    
 Lieutenant Governor would end the $.50 a registrar gets for                   
 registering someone to vote.  It involves considerable paperwork              
 administratively, and is time consuming; in addition, with the new            
 federal motor voter law, it is illegal now to require witnesses on            
 voter registration forms.  This would eliminate the potential for             
 fraud.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 322                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES determined from her committee aide and Mr. Fink that              
 this bill only had a Finance referral after it left State Affairs.            
 She said they would take testimony on the bill, but she felt                  
 uncomfortable adding all these things to a Senate Bill at this                
 time, because they were very substantial amendments. She recalled             
 that Mr. Fink had indicated that he filed a bill with these extras            
 in the Senate.                                                                
                                                                               
 MR. FINK concurred, saying Senator Kelly introduced a bill to                 
 familiarize the Senate with the new provisions.  He has no                    
 intentions of taking it to the Floor, but it is scheduled for                 
 hearings.  It was scheduled to be heard in Senate State Affairs               
 next week.  His concern is that if we do not take action this year            
 they will miss the opportunity altogether.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 349                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said she did not think that serious election reform               
 should be ramrodded through.  She said this is an extensive bill to           
 go through one committee of referral before going to Finance.   Her           
 plan was to take testimony, then let the committee decide on what             
 to do with the bill.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 357                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVID  KOIVUNIEMI, Acting Director, Division of Elections, Office             
 of the Lieutenant Governor wished to acknowledge, as per what Josh            
 Fink said, that there was a meeting between Senator Kelly and                 
 Lieutenant Governor Ulmer.   At that meeting they worked out the              
 provisions and included them in the proposed amendment.   Mr.                 
 Koivuniemi had some comments to make regarding particular sections            
 of SB 5.   First, in Section 1, until the 1994 primary and general            
 election, the Division of Elections used the question ballot                  
 envelope as the registration document.   However, the prior                   
 director changed that to not allow question ballot envelope to                
 serve as a registration document.   The intent for the upcoming               
 presidential election is to reinstate the question ballot as a                
 registration document.  In presidential elections the 30 day                  
 registration period is waived and they can register on the day they           
 vote.   With regard to the section about deletions of felons, and             
 death deletes, that is currently the practice of the Division of              
 Elections, so no conflict exists.  He brought up the concerns of              
 Lieutenant Governor Ulmer and the transition team about putting               
 them in classified service because they would enter into a                    
 bargaining unit that would be politically active, which is                    
 inappropriate.   The purpose of the Lieutenant Governor and the               
 transition team is to depoliticize the Division of Elections.                 
 That is why the amendment Mr. Fink described was requested.                   
                                                                               
 Number 420                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. KOIVUNIEMI said he had previously testified on provisions that            
 were included in Representative Jerry Mackies bill.  The other                
 deletion the division is proposing is the payments to the                     
 registrars, which Mr. Fink explained earlier in his testimony.                
 They track payments to registrars by having them witness the                  
 registration document.  Under the National Voter Registration Act,            
 witnessing of voter registration is no longer required.                       
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said the drafter of SB 5 was there and wondered if                
 anyone had questions for the person.   There were no questions, so            
 she brought up the options they had when considering SB 5.                    
                                                                               
 Number 444                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ED WILLIS voiced a request to hold the bill over               
 until at least Thursday and deal with it at the next meeting.                 
 There are major provisions made to this bill, which they must                 
 consider, and he felt reluctant to make any decision on it.                   
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES asked the committee if they had any objections.                   
 Hearing none, Chair James said they would hold the bill until the             
 next meeting, on Thursday, April 6.  The next item on the agenda              
 was HB 211, by Representative Con Bunde.                                      
                                                                               
 SB 5 - ELECTION BALLOTS                                                     
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES said they would go back to revisit SB 5.                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER stated that he believed both proposed                   
 amendments for identified M-4 and M-3 were acceptable as                      
 written.  He moved that amendment M-3 be identified as Amendment              
 1,  and move its adoption.  Then he stopped and said he was                   
 getting ahead of things.  Representative Porter then moved House CS           
 for CS for SB 5, work draft Version K, as the committees work                 
 draft.  There being no objection, the motion passed.                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER then moved to identify M.3 dated 4/3/95 as              
 Amendment 1, and move its adoption.  There being no objections, the           
 motion passed:  Amendment 1 was approved.                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER then moved that they identify amendment M.4             
 dated 4/3/95 as Amendment 2, and move its adoption.  There being no           
 objections, the motion passed:  Amendment 2 was adopted.                      
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER moved Amendment 3, to removed or delete the             
 two appropriate sections, Section 2 and Section 3.  Hearing no                
 objections, the motion passed and Amendment 3 was approved.                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER moved to pass from committee with individual            
 recommendations and fiscal notes as attached, House CS for CS for             
 SB 5, Version K, as amended.                                                  
                                                                               
 MR. FINK asked the committee that they again consider the                     
 resolution to change the title, which will now be necessitated.               
                                                                               
 CHAIR JAMES asked if there was any objection to moving the bill               
 out.    Hearing no objections House CS for CS for SB 5, Version K,            
 was passed.                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PORTER then moved that the committee adopt and move            
 from committee the HCR, unnumbered /A, dated 3/27/95.  There were             
 no objections, so HCR unnumbered /A, dated 3/27/95 passed.                    

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